Will Tree View return in Nautilus?

Asked by Andy Bovett

I have just installed the beta of Ubuntu Raring and was and was surprised to find that Nautilus no longer has a tree view (or at least, I can't find it). From what I understand having looked around a bit this appears to be a Gnome project decision, though one I find it hard to get my head around, as tree view is (to me) such an important part of a file manager.

Will this feature be replaced? If not, I'm going to have a hard time using it, or "selling" the new Ubunu to my users. Tree view is the only efficient way I know for moving files when sorting them into multiple folders, especially if those folders don't share a common parent. Also, the tree view gives a clear overview of the file system structure - without it, you basically have to hold the structure in your head. This may be OK for some users with simple filing systems, but when you have 1000's of folders and 10,000's of files it is totally impractical. I realise that I can load an alternative file manager, but this is a bit clunky and won't integrate as well with the rest of the UI. Are there plans to bring it back?

Thanks

Andy

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N1ck 7h0m4d4k15 (nicktux) said :
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Here is an interesting discussion about your query , your frustration (lot of people feel the same) , but this is not a decision of Ubuntu , but Gnome (as you said).

http://forums.worldofgnome.org/discussion/31/the-tree-view-in-nautilus/p1

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#2

Could try another file browser which has it. Nautilus is not the only file browser....

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Jose Gómez (adler-dreamcoder) said :
#3

Every Ubuntu/Gnome version I keep losing features. This is no longer the Ubuntu I switched to from Windows. I should start evaluating alternatives (KDE or Gnome forks). If Gnome designers thinks this is an advanced feature, they should allow this to be enabled in an "advanced" mode, but not removed altogether.

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#4

It is optional, switching desktop for the sake of a file browser demonstrates lack of knowledge of the OS (which is fine). Try installing pcmanfm or another file browser. There are many to choose from. They may do what you need. You don't have to use the default applications. I, for example, hate Firefox web browser but I install something different and use that instead. Same with nautilus.

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Andy Bovett (abovett) said :
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To answer actionparsnip, yes I know I can load another file manager, as I said in my initial post - in fact I already have. However, it does not integrate as well with the rest of Ubuntu, and results in a less consistent user experience. That's not so much a problem for me - I'm an IT professional who is quite familiar with many versions of Linux and Windows, and can easily handle such inconsistancies. However, I am also involved in deploying desktops to much less experienced users. I was hoping to deploy Ubuntu, but this choice makes it a more difficult decision. As I see it, my choices are now:

1. Deploy Ubuntu as is, and accept the loss of functionality. Some of my less capable users may not miss it, but some of them are going to find life harder when they navigate the server folder hierarchy.

2. Roll a custom build with an alternate file manager. However, this will be more work and could considerably increase the support effort required. I think it is unlikely that an alternate file manager will integrate as well with the rest of Ubuntu/Unity without a lot of work, and unless I can disable Nautilus completely there's the chance the users will accidentally end up opening Nautilus sometimes, causing confusion. I am currenty evaluating Nemo as the most likely alternative for this approach but so far it doesn't appear to be a seamless replacement.

3. Switch to an alternative distro. There are several I am considering but there are reasons why none of them are an ideal alternative, though the reasons are probably off-topic for this discussion.

I would be interested to know if anyone else is facing a similar deployment decision and what they are considering.

Regards

Andy

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Shunsuke Akagi (shoon) said :
#7

Other alternative did not work well as I expected, For instance, I cannot make link, etc.
The reason why I liked ubuntu was the tree view.
I do not know why they are down grading as they upgrade.
I hope they realize that it is really one of many problems.

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Andy Bovett (abovett) said :
#9

This is an old thread now, but for those who are still having trouble with this, I am finding that Nemo makes a good replacement. It integrates well with the rest of the desktop, and has the tree view plus other useful features. A couple of websites with instructions on how to switch:

http://itsfoss.com/install-nemo-default-file-manager-ubuntu-1304/

http://www.fandigital.com/2013/01/set-nemo-default-file-manager-ubuntu.html

The only thing that I've found missing so far is the "places" shortcuts in the right click menu, but that can be fixed by adding them to the nemo.desktop file in /usr/share/applications. If anyone needs help with this post to this thread and I'll put up some instructions.

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Shunsuke Akagi (shoon) said :
#10

Thank you, Andy!
I just needed to switch to nemo.
So long, nautilus!

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PowerKiKi (adrien-crivelli) said :
#12

I used a more radical solution and switched from Gnome Shell to XFCE and thus Thunar as file manager. Extremely happy so far, especially with instantaneous reactivity for pretty much everything.

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Shunsuke Akagi (shoon) said :
#13

I use 5 computers and after installed 13.10 on one of the computers, it has been nightmere. I was glad I did not install my main computer.
I will install XFCE on my ancient computer to see if it is good. The new ubuntu is too heavy for the old system anyway.
Thanks PowerKiKi!

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